television set where wendy williams is on, you will see women and men of all ages and ethnicities sitting around watching, transfixed. she's a new phenomenon. some people call her the next oprah. her show is a phenom. >> it is not a black or white thing, it happens to be ring mastered by a nutty black woman from new jersey. what i see when i look at my audience is the way my life has always been, it is the way i have been raised and that's just that. it is everybody else, some of everybody else, who is shocked at oh, my goodness, did i see a woman in a berka and three friends next to her? yes, you did, it is wendy williams show, come one, come all. >> she's the new breakout talk show host. my full interview with wendy williams coming up tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn.